Part II—the PlayStation video game from which HBO’s The Last of Us season 2 is adapted—to be “one of the smartest games on empathy ever made,” she says. “I felt like the game was always having a conversation with you about it.

In Season 2, episode 4, Ellie and Dina (Isabela Merced) are en route to Seattle when they need shelter. They find the one place they can fit their horse Shimmer through the door, Valiant Music Shop, an abandoned record store that's still fully stocked with Bob Marley and Tears for Fears vinyl and requisite Pearl Jam posters.